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0001694T99X171.00 SKB EagleSW Issuepublic2023-06-08 08:43
Reporter(ALTech) Younkwang Jung Assigned To(ALTech) Younkwang Jung Due Date2023-04-03 11:11
PrioritynormalSeveritys4-minorReproducibilityhave not tried
Status closedResolutionfixed 
Summary0001694: [Smart3][ATV12] About use PAI at Smart3 ATV12 YouTubeKids app
DescriptionHi Kerwin

1) YouTube Kids is currently prebuilt on Smart3 FW.
   Is it a problem when FXN apply YouTube Kids PAI in this situation?
   SKB asks me to apply YouTube Kids PAI to Smart3 ATV12.
   https://jira.skbroadband.com/browse/FSTB12-3

2) I hope to know about the PAI setting
   Please let me know what kind of options or settings are there when applying PAI.
   screen capture or descriptions..

3) please let me know about the risks that may occur when upgrading from ATV10 FW(v15.534.28) with YouTubeKids to ATV12 FW(v15.537.xx) without YouTubeKids after applying PAI to YouTube Kids (ATV12)

Thank you
YK.Jung
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(SW) Jason Ling

2023-03-30 15:22

developer   ~0012680

Hi YK,

>>1) YouTube Kids is currently prebuilt on Smart3 FW.
>> Is it a problem when FXN apply YouTube Kids PAI in this situation?
>> SKB asks me to apply YouTube Kids PAI to Smart3 ATV12.
>> https://jira.skbroadband.com/browse/FSTB12-3

Hi YK, before we publish PAI, please check item2 first, and let us know which setting should I set?
if you want to verify it on your side, you can let me know the serial number of STB.

>>2) I hope to know about the PAI setting
>> Please let me know what kind of options or settings are there when applying PAI.
>> screen capture or descriptions..
Please refer to PAI.jpg
There are 2 options, When the user sees the PAI screen, there will be a "checkbox" next to the app name

on PAI Server settings
Required: user can not uncheck the "checkbox"
Install by default: The "checkbox" will be checked by default, but the user can uncheck it.

>>3) please let me know about the risks that may occur when upgrading from ATV10 FW(v15.534.28) with YouTubeKids to ATV12 FW(v15.537.xx) without YouTubeKids after applying PAI to YouTube Kids (ATV12)
There are 2 cases as follows,

case 1
If user hasn't login Google account and hasn't update YTKids by PlayStore before (it means there is no YTKids in /data partition), after update to the ATV12 FW (without preload YTKids), the YTKids will gone.
case 2
if user has logged in Google account and updated YTKids by PlayStore before (it means there is an YTKids in /data partition), after update to the ATV12 FW (without preload YTkids), the YTkids still exists.

if user do the factory reset in ATV12, they can install YTKids by PAI.

Thanks,
Jason
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(ALTech) Younkwang Jung

2023-03-31 09:10

developer   ~0012690

Hi Jason

We will review YouTube Kids PAI, so please register the following 7 STBs.

[ro.serialno]: [4669688001201904000180]
[ro.serialno]: [SKBFXYXD2ECJ]
[ro.serialno]: [SKBFXYXD2FPB]
[ro.serialno]: [SKBFXYUP2CXY]
[ro.serialno]: [4669688001201904000335]
[ro.serialno]: [4669688001201904000174]
[ro.serialno]: [SKBFXYXD2EOM]

I'll check and contact you if I have any questions

And when applying YouTube Kids PAI, can it be applied only to Smart3 ATV12?
Or does it apply to all Smart3s?

Thank you
YK.Jung

(SW) Jason Ling

2023-03-31 09:49

developer   ~0012691

Hi YK,

>>We will review YouTube Kids PAI, so please register the following 7 STBs.
Done

>>I'll check and contact you if I have any questions

>>And when applying YouTube Kids PAI, can it be applied only to Smart3 ATV12?
>>Or does it apply to all Smart3s?
We can only apply to ATV12, (now we only apply to ATV12)

Thank,
Jason

(ALTech) JunGyu Kim

2023-04-04 13:24

developer   ~0012717

Last edited: 2023-04-04 13:47

Hi Jason,

Below is the result of testing PAI.
1. When doing upgrade test (ATV10 -> ATV12(FW without youtube kids)) in registered PAI board, the youtube kids is NOT installing.
2. After factory reset, the youtube kids is installed.

The result of testing, if end-user did not factory reset, youtube kids is not installing.
(It seems that have to go through the setup wizard to install youtube kids.)


I have a few questions.
1. Is the PAI setting "Required"?
2. Is youtube kids installation through setup wizzard?
3. If end-user delete youtube kids, the youtube kids can NOT install by auto?
4. When the ATV10 STB is deployed in the field, how often does the youtube app usually update when the user does not take any special action?
    (Youtube Kids has an update app in September of last year. If there is a user update from ATV10, there seems to be no issue when updating to ATV12.)

Please test and reply your opinion.

Thank you.
Kim

(SW) Jason Ling

2023-04-06 09:09

developer   ~0012730

Hi Kim,

>>The result of testing, if end-user did not factory reset, youtube kids is not installing.
>>(It seems that have to go through the setup wizard to install youtube kids.)
Of course, PAI only work in SetupWizard

I have a few questions.
>>1. Is the PAI setting "Required"?
Yes, currently, we enabled "required" for YTKids.

>>2. Is youtube kids installation through setup wizzard?
Yes, It's installed by PAI function, PAI only work in SetupWizard

>>3. If end-user delete youtube kids, the youtube kids can NOT install by auto?
Of course, if we enable YTKids in ATV12 PAI, After user remove it, the YTKids will not be installed again until user do the factory reset.

>>4. When the ATV10 STB is deployed in the field, how often does the youtube app usually update when the user does not take any special action?
>> (Youtube Kids has an update app in September of last year. If there is a user update from ATV10, there seems to be no issue when updating to ATV12.)
We don't know the release plan of YouTube Team, the key point for YouTube update without any special action is "user must login google account and enable auto update in PlayStore [default is enable]"

The key point is that PAI is working at Setup wizard stage. if you want to remove YouTube from ATV12, I think the best solution is Digicap should make "fake YTKids icon" in app lists.
if YTKids hasn't updated in ATV10 (it means the YTKids will be removed from ATV12), when user update from ATV10 to ATV12 without factory reset. if user click "fack YTKids", the screen will redirect to PlayStore and download it.
This will ensure users can use YTKids in ATV12.

Thanks,
Jason

(ALTech) Younkwang Jung

2023-05-25 08:47

developer   ~0013227

Hi Jason

This is a request from SKB.
Please remove YTKids from prebuilt in Smart3 OS12.
And PAI setting for YTKids should be applied to Smart3 OS10/OS12.

Additionally, Apple TV+ is also considering removing it from prebuilt, but it has not been decided yet.
I'll let you know when it's decided.

Thank you
YK.Jung

(SW) Jason Ling

2023-05-25 09:33

developer   ~0013228

Hi YK,

Done,

1. remove YTKids from prebuilt in Smart3 OS12.
2. Setup PAI YTKids for Smart3 OS10/OS12.

Thanks,
Jason

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2023-03-30 10:11 (ALTech) Younkwang Jung New Issue
2023-03-30 10:12 (ALTech) Younkwang Jung Assigned To => (SW) Kerwin Chen
2023-03-30 10:12 (ALTech) Younkwang Jung Status new => assigned
2023-03-30 10:12 (ALTech) Younkwang Jung Due Date => 2023-04-03 11:11
2023-03-30 10:13 (ALTech) Younkwang Jung Issue Monitored: (ALTech) SY Yoon
2023-03-30 10:13 (ALTech) Younkwang Jung Issue Monitored: (ALTech) JunGyu Kim
2023-03-30 10:30 (SW) Kerwin Chen Assigned To (SW) Kerwin Chen => (SW) Jason Ling
2023-03-30 11:02 (SW) Jason Ling Severity s2-severe => s4-minor
2023-03-30 15:22 (SW) Jason Ling Note Added: 0012680
2023-03-30 15:22 (SW) Jason Ling File Added: PAI.jpg
2023-03-30 15:22 (SW) Jason Ling Assigned To (SW) Jason Ling => (ALTech) Younkwang Jung
2023-03-31 09:10 (ALTech) Younkwang Jung Note Added: 0012690
2023-03-31 09:49 (SW) Jason Ling Note Added: 0012691
2023-03-31 11:20 (SW) Jason Ling Issue Monitored: (SW) Kerwin Chen
2023-04-04 13:24 (ALTech) JunGyu Kim Note Added: 0012717
2023-04-04 13:31 (ALTech) JunGyu Kim Note Edited: 0012717
2023-04-04 13:47 (ALTech) JunGyu Kim Note Edited: 0012717
2023-04-04 13:48 (ALTech) JunGyu Kim Note View State: 0012717: private
2023-04-04 13:48 (ALTech) JunGyu Kim Note View State: 0012717: public
2023-04-06 09:09 (SW) Jason Ling Note Added: 0012730
2023-05-25 08:47 (ALTech) Younkwang Jung Note Added: 0013227
2023-05-25 09:33 (SW) Jason Ling Note Added: 0013228
2023-06-08 08:43 (ALTech) Younkwang Jung Status assigned => closed
2023-06-08 08:43 (ALTech) Younkwang Jung Resolution open => fixed